MLB U1 in A straddling the line.

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    mike_howard
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    Went and watched a game tonight and was watching the umps a little more closely than I used to. I know it’s four-man and that I’m a long, long way from that, but I did notice that U1 was straddling the line with no runners on base.

    My trainers told me always to set myself up in foul territory. Is there a benefit to straddling the line like he was?

    #370991

    typikon
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    @mike_howard 207246 wrote:

    Went and watched a game tonight and was watching the umps a little more closely than I used to. I know it’s four-man and that I’m a long, long way from that, but I did notice that U1 was straddling the line with no runners on base.

    My trainers told me always to set myself up in foul territory. Is there a benefit to straddling the line like he was?

    Tenure!

    #370996

    Anonymous

    @mike_howard 207246 wrote:

    Went and watched a game tonight and was watching the umps a little more closely than I used to. I know it’s four-man and that I’m a long, long way from that, but I did notice that U1 was straddling the line with no runners on base. My trainers told me always to set myself up in foul territory. Is there a benefit to straddling the line like he was?

    It’s a matter of choice. Prior to the merging of American and National League umpires in 2000, the National League preference was to straddle the line. The American League preference was to be in foul territory. The thinking of National League Umpires is that one gets a better look at balls close to the foul line. American League umpires take the attitude that they presumably will never be hit with a fair ball.The bottom line is this: Do what your trainers are telling you to do.

    FYI, the MLBUM states that with no runners on base, the 1st and 3rd base umpires are to position themselves with both feet in foul territory.

    #370997

    bobjenkins
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    It could also be that there was something about the field or the player’s positioning that led to this stance.

    #371003

    Anonymous

    I know that in 3-man, if I’m in D with a runner on 3rd, I’ll now straddle the line. Gives a much better unobstructed view with R-3 leading off in foul territory. I got a unobstructed look for a check swing, batter hit by batted ball, how the ball comes off the bat, and a shot down the 3rd baseline. Can’t see an umpire in A or D really being at risk for being hit by a batted ball he can’t avoid.

    #371013

    bobjenkins
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    @msmith 207263 wrote:

    Can’t see an umpire in A or D really being at risk for being hit by a batted ball he can’t avoid.

    Well, the one you can’t avoid is the only one you will get hit by. 😉

    And, it happens more than you’d think — the ball is curling a lot and if you go the wrong way you’ll be hit. I never was (just pure luck, really), but had it happen to a handful of partners.

    #371022

    kengibes
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    bobjenkins;207274 wrote:
    Well, the one you can’t avoid is the only one you will get hit by. 😉

    And, it happens more than you’d think — the ball is curling a lot and if you go the wrong way you’ll be hit. I never was (just pure luck, really), but had it happen to a handful of partners.

    Excellent point. The ball almost always curls toward DBT, so to avoid a hard liner coming down the line the BU should move toward fair territory. But this is contrary to the whole reason the umpire is in foul territory in the first place, and many umpires just can’t get their body to move in towards the field when this happens. So they move the other way… in the same direction that the ball is curling. The feeling you get is the same as when a pesky fly or bee keeps buzzing you no matter which way you move. I know this from experience. :(:(:(

    #371025

    douggro
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    “Righties, move right; lefties, move left” is what I remind myself when in B or C for the line drive hit straight towards me. In A, if you move left into DBT and get hit, there’s an exceptionally high probability that you got hit by a foul ball anyway..

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