Concussion

[heyblue26]

A player has been removed from the game for symptoms of a concussion, and the player is approved to return to play again in the game. Now a few plays later, the player is once again showing signs of a potential concussion. What should be done?

This came up in a disscussion while having a few cold ones a few have said that they wouldn't let the player participate. and a few others said that the player should be sent off for a evaluation what would you say.

[Scuzzyfeller]

Originally Posted by heyblue26

A player has been removed from the game for symptoms of a concussion, and the player is approved to return to play again in the game. Now a few plays later, the player is once again showing signs of a potential concussion. What should be done?

This came up in a disscussion while having a few cold ones a few have said that they wouldn't let the player participate. and a few others said that the player should be sent off for a evaluation what would you say.

Just my 2 cents bud...but if "removed" due to concussion "symptoms"...quite simply....he's done for this game....not on my watch sir!

I'm pretty certain that would be the strong consensus among this board!

Regards,

Scuzz

[Rich_Ives]

Originally Posted by heyblue26

A player has been removed from the game for symptoms of a concussion, and the player is approved to return to play again in the game. Now a few plays later, the player is once again showing signs of a potential concussion. What should be done?

This came up in a disscussion while having a few cold ones a few have said that they wouldn't let the player participate. and a few others said that the player should be sent off for a evaluation what would you say.

What rules? What is the league's rule?

If you're using straight OBR you have no say in the matter.

As for "done for the day" - that is only in certain rule sets - is it in yours? Is the person who approved him to return able to do so by rule? If so, you have no say. You should call it to his attention, but it isn't your call.

If it's Kim Jong Il let him back into the game and have the catcher put the target in harm's way.

[kyle_jt]

Depends on which hat I'm wearing.

My umpire hat says I have no say in the matter.

My Dad hat says he's done for the day, and his parents need to get him looked at ASAP.

I've gone through concussion, with two mask shots, flush ones, within a couple of innings. I thought I was fine at the time, but I really wasn't. The cobwebs didn't blow out for a couple of weeks. My daughter suffered two within a couple weeks of each other, and the second one was down right scary. I'm very aware of what a blow to the dome can do.

My Dad hat will take over in a kids game. One way, or another, he's done for the day.

By NFHS rule, a player must be removed if he displays signs of a concussion. He cannot return unless cleared by a health care professional.

[Rich_Ives]

Originally Posted by ggchavez

By NFHS rule, a player must be removed if he displays signs of a concussion. He cannot return unless cleared by a health care professional.

heyblue26 is in Korea - they don't play FED there.

AND he said the player was approved to re-enter.

Most youth ball other than HS in the US os played under OBR based rules. Absent a state law on concussions, it will be neceessary to consult with each organization as to what their rules are.

[heyblue26]

Originally Posted by Rich_Ives

heyblue26 is in Korea - they don't play FED there.

AND he said the player was approved to re-enter.

Most youth ball other than HS in the US os played under OBR based rules. Absent a state law on concussions, it will be neceessary to consult with each organization as to what their rules are.

Rich; Yes am in Korea and we do play NFHS here but it is a short season. Yes In my OP it says that he was removed from the game for symptoms of a concussion and that the player was approved to return to play. But a few plays later the player is once again showing signs of a potential concussion. I say below:

choices are:

a. Nothing
b. player should be sent off for evaluation
c. player should not be able to participate
d. A report should be files with state office.

I agree that he is done and not participate for the day period and player should be sent off for Evaluation. Why I say (b) because of the signs of concussion.

[bobjenkins]

Originally Posted by heyblue26

Rich; Yes am in Korea and we do play NFHS here but it is a short season. Yes In my OP it says that he was removed from the game for symptoms of a concussion and that the player was approved to return to play. But a few plays later the player is once again showing signs of a potential concussion.

Send him off again.

[heyblue26]

Originally Posted by Rich_Ives

If it's Kim Jong Il let him back into the game and have the catcher put the target in harm's way.

I agree with that One

[cajunyankee]

Yep. Send him off again.
I agree that I may be operating outside of my area of responsibility here but if there's a kid on my field that is displaying symptoms of concussion (such as I know them), he's not playing.

I've heard it suggested that the umpire 'hear' the kid curse at someone and eject him if it comes to it.
WHo can argue? The kid's got a concussion. He doesn't remember

All kidding aside, a concussed player is getting off of my field one way or another.

[yawetag]

At my state rules interpretation meeting yesterday, it was stated that the coach is responsible for ensuring the proper health-care professional has evaluated his player. The video specifically stated that if a coach claims a player has been cleared, the umpire can allow him to re-enter "without liability."

I asked for the statement to be in writing so I can hand it to my lawyer.

[alex7]

Surprisingly, we were told the same thing here in southern Oregon. If the coach says a medical person has cleared the player, then the player has been cleared. We don't look at notes and determine whether they are legit or not.

[yawetag]

Originally Posted by alex7

Surprisingly, we were told the same thing here in southern Oregon. If the coach says a medical person has cleared the player, then the player has been cleared. We don't look at notes and determine whether they are legit or not.

To be honest, I would ask the coach who cleared the player, and write it down on the lineup card. When I get home, I'm filing a Special Report to the state (and an email to my association). This way, if anything happens down the line, I've got my side submitted to the state.