Jim Evans or wendelstedt school

shagina · 08-11-2010, 07:45 AM

i have been researching different schools and i would like to know. which one is the better school to go to.

Richard_Siegel · 08-11-2010, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by shagina

i have been researching different schools and i would like to know. which one is the better school to go to.

Why don't you tell us first what differences, and good or bad points of each school you have learned so far from the research you have done. Then we will comment or your report.

denimvest · 08-12-2010, 01:10 PM

I think the only person who could ever answer that question with any authority would be someone who actually attended both schools. Both schools have educated thousands of professional umpires, and both have alumni in MLB. I think it's like the equivalent of asking, "which is 'better' – Harvard or Stanford?" Both institutions will give you a great education, and the 'better' one is the one that seems like a better personal fit for you. Talk to people at both schools. Get a sense of the philosophy and the 'feel.' I don't think you can go 'wrong' with either one. You're most likely talking about the two finest institutions of their kind in the world. As with college or any educational experience, it's what you put into it that matters most. I'm sure either school can and will provide you with more quality information than you could ever possibly absorb in five weeks.

bluesails · 08-12-2010, 03:10 PM

I thought this was really smart. When I attended a few years ago a couple of young men stopped by to check things out, on the field and in the classroom. They took the time to discretely observe, ask questions of students and instructors, check out living accommodations/meals etc. They did this at both schools as they were planning to attend the following year. It was during the 4th week, when things are in full swing. They got a good taste of each program I'm sure. Don't know where or if they went, but it was a good approach.

mmorgan78 · 08-12-2010, 04:01 PM

Just my .02 cents

cletus · 09-07-2010, 06:54 PM

I have a friend that is a former MLB umpire and current NCAA umpire and he has been an instructor at both schools. I'm attending Jim Evans Academy this January solely based upon his recommendation.

Solsaa · 09-07-2010, 08:54 PM

Not only a good choice, but the right choice.

bluesails · 09-08-2010, 10:37 PM

You seem to have a preference...... but give no indication how you determined that superiority. Having an opinion is fine, you offered no rationale as to how you reached that conclusion.

johnnyg08 · 09-10-2010, 03:20 AM

While he didn't give a lot of support, it doesn't make it a bad post...if you want to know more about what he thinks...maybe consider just asking him.

bluesails · 09-10-2010, 11:54 AM

Did not infer the post was 'bad'. Just interested as to what influenced his decision. You can take that as a question within a comment.

chuck1 · 09-12-2010, 05:27 PM

How many of the students picked are 2nd year students from each school? It would be hard for a first year guy to compete with a second year guy if they take a lot of 2nd timers. Also, someone would need to know this information and take it into consideration if they knew they would have to attend school twice to get a job. This would make it twice as expensive. If that's the case, they should run 2 classes, one in January and one if February for the guys who didn't make it to try again. At least you could get it done all in one year.
Don't know. Just asking.

jasonk · 09-12-2010, 05:35 PM

I can tell you honestly that we do not encourage students to return for a second year unless the potential is there for them to get a job. We only have 3-5 returners a year. Most of our candidates are 1st year students. Hope that helps!

bluesails · 09-12-2010, 06:19 PM

I can attest to what JasonK has said. There were about that amount,(3-5) of returning 2nd year students when I attended. They were, from what they told me, encouraged to repeat because they had scored well and had what they were looking for but had some areas to work on. The school indicated they had a good chance to be promoted to PBUC if improved those areas sufficiently. They do not bullshit you to get you to come back. I think all the 2nd year guys got jobs that year. There were some that had gone to both schools and a few who had gone 3, 4, even one 5 timer. They were all good umpires but didn't fit the mold I guess.

08-11-2010, 07:45 AM	#1
shagina Newbie Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	Jim Evans or wendelstedt school i have been researching different schools and i would like to know. which one is the better school to go to.

08-12-2010, 01:10 PM	#3
denimvest Regular Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Vermont Age: 42 Posts: 187 Rep Power: 10	Re: Jim Evans or wendelstedt school I think the only person who could ever answer that question with any authority would be someone who actually attended both schools. Both schools have educated thousands of professional umpires, and both have alumni in MLB. I think it's like the equivalent of asking, "which is 'better' – Harvard or Stanford?" Both institutions will give you a great education, and the 'better' one is the one that seems like a better personal fit for you. Talk to people at both schools. Get a sense of the philosophy and the 'feel.' I don't think you can go 'wrong' with either one. You're most likely talking about the two finest institutions of their kind in the world. As with college or any educational experience, it's what you put into it that matters most. I'm sure either school can and will provide you with more quality information than you could ever possibly absorb in five weeks.

08-12-2010, 03:10 PM	#4
bluesails Regular Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cape Cod , Ma. Posts: 119 Rep Power: 18	Re: Jim Evans or wendelstedt school I thought this was really smart. When I attended a few years ago a couple of young men stopped by to check things out, on the field and in the classroom. They took the time to discretely observe, ask questions of students and instructors, check out living accommodations/meals etc. They did this at both schools as they were planning to attend the following year. It was during the 4th week, when things are in full swing. They got a good taste of each program I'm sure. Don't know where or if they went, but it was a good approach.

08-12-2010, 04:01 PM	#5
mmorgan78 Newbie Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 15 Rep Power: 0	Re: Jim Evans or wendelstedt school Just my .02 cents Last edited by mmorgan78; 04-07-2011 at 06:53 PM. Reason: ...

09-07-2010, 06:54 PM	#6
cletus Newbie Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Pensacola, FL Age: 29 Posts: 8 Rep Power: 0	Re: Jim Evans or wendelstedt school I have a friend that is a former MLB umpire and current NCAA umpire and he has been an instructor at both schools. I'm attending Jim Evans Academy this January solely based upon his recommendation.

09-07-2010, 08:54 PM	#7
Solsaa All-Star Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 413 Rep Power: 34	Re: Jim Evans or wendelstedt school Not only a good choice, but the right choice. __________________ Poster formerly known as Willy.

09-08-2010, 10:37 PM	#8
bluesails Regular Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cape Cod , Ma. Posts: 119 Rep Power: 18	Re: Jim Evans or wendelstedt school You seem to have a preference...... but give no indication how you determined that superiority. Having an opinion is fine, you offered no rationale as to how you reached that conclusion.

09-10-2010, 03:20 AM	#9
johnnyg08 All-Star Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 779 Rep Power: 30	Re: Jim Evans or wendelstedt school While he didn't give a lot of support, it doesn't make it a bad post...if you want to know more about what he thinks...maybe consider just asking him.

09-10-2010, 11:54 AM	#10
bluesails Regular Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cape Cod , Ma. Posts: 119 Rep Power: 18	Re: Jim Evans or wendelstedt school Did not infer the post was 'bad'. Just interested as to what influenced his decision. You can take that as a question within a comment.

09-12-2010, 05:27 PM	#11
chuck1 Regular Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 188 Rep Power: 14	Re: Jim Evans or wendelstedt school How many of the students picked are 2nd year students from each school? It would be hard for a first year guy to compete with a second year guy if they take a lot of 2nd timers. Also, someone would need to know this information and take it into consideration if they knew they would have to attend school twice to get a job. This would make it twice as expensive. If that's the case, they should run 2 classes, one in January and one if February for the guys who didn't make it to try again. At least you could get it done all in one year. Don't know. Just asking.

09-12-2010, 05:35 PM	#12
jasonk Administrator Moderator Site Admin Regular Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 110 Rep Power: 10	Re: Jim Evans or wendelstedt school I can tell you honestly that we do not encourage students to return for a second year unless the potential is there for them to get a job. We only have 3-5 returners a year. Most of our candidates are 1st year students. Hope that helps!

09-12-2010, 06:19 PM	#13
bluesails Regular Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cape Cod , Ma. Posts: 119 Rep Power: 18	Re: Jim Evans or wendelstedt school I can attest to what JasonK has said. There were about that amount,(3-5) of returning 2nd year students when I attended. They were, from what they told me, encouraged to repeat because they had scored well and had what they were looking for but had some areas to work on. The school indicated they had a good chance to be promoted to PBUC if improved those areas sufficiently. They do not bullshit you to get you to come back. I think all the 2nd year guys got jobs that year. There were some that had gone to both schools and a few who had gone 3, 4, even one 5 timer. They were all good umpires but didn't fit the mold I guess.

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