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typikon 04-25-2012 04:53 AM

Balk?
 
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=20895267

Not enough of a step to 1st?

yawetag 04-25-2012 05:36 AM

Re: Balk?
 
It's the only thing that makes sense to me. It's close, though.

heyblue26 04-25-2012 11:03 AM

Re: Balk?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by typikon (Post 136721)

It looked like he didn't get the distance and direction going to first. But from the other angle it looked like he may have broken the plane in which it looked like he had to go home with the pitch and not to first. I was wondering why the first base umpire didn't ehco the call of the PU he had a good shot at the pitcher's movement.

bobjenkins 04-25-2012 12:54 PM

Re: Balk?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by typikon (Post 136721)

Or a move to the plate and then changing direction on the front leg to go toward first. (Not that I necessarily would call that here, just speculating on what PU might have had)

kengibes 04-25-2012 01:43 PM

Re: Balk?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bobjenkins (Post 136736)
Or a move to the plate and then changing direction on the front leg to go toward first. (Not that I necessarily would call that here, just speculating on what PU might have had)

The change of direction of the leg is the only thing that I see that might have caused the PU to call a balk. It looks kinda "loopy", and the PU may have had a commitment to pitch the ball before the pitcher changed directions and went to first.

Not much worse than many other accomplished pick-off artists, though.

Richard_Siegel 04-25-2012 06:11 PM

Re: Balk?
 
I think it is easy to see. He broke the plane with the left foot. and threw to 1B. That's the balk right there..

The fact that he left foot ended up stepping down in front of the rubber means nothing.

typikon 04-25-2012 06:45 PM

Re: Balk?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard_Siegel (Post 136757)
I think it is easy to see. He broke the plane with the left foot. and threw to 1B. That's the balk right there..

The fact that he left foot ended up stepping down in front of the rubber means nothing.

It was the PU that called it? Or 3B umpire? Is it unusual for the PU to be monitoring the "plane?"

Richard_Siegel 04-25-2012 06:54 PM

Re: Balk?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by typikon (Post 136758)
It was the PU that called it? Or 3B umpire? Is it unusual for the PU to be monitoring the "plane?"

I agree, but see a balk call a balk!

nopachunts 04-25-2012 10:41 PM

Re: Balk?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard_Siegel (Post 136759)
I agree, but see a balk call a balk!

+1000

Ozzy 04-26-2012 01:27 AM

Re: Balk?
 
I think the PU saw the hitch to the plate that I saw. When viewed from behind the plate, there is a definite hitch to the plate then he goes to 1st. I think that is why the PU came right up with the balk.

heyblue26 04-26-2012 04:34 AM

Re: Balk?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard_Siegel (Post 136759)
I agree, but see a balk call a balk!

Yes review the JE DVD.

Scuzzyfeller 04-26-2012 02:46 PM

Re: Balk?
 
The camera angle from the 3B side looks like the front foot BROKE the plane of the rubber...and I'm "ass"uming the 1B umpire didn't see it that way...

Break the plane as the lefty...BALK...

Scuzz

lustersilk 04-26-2012 03:41 PM

Re: Balk?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard_Siegel (Post 136757)
I think it is easy to see. He broke the plane with the left foot. and threw to 1B. That's the balk right there.

I was thinking that too, but would the PU call that, with three others umpires better positioned to make that call?


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