Does the run score?

[Richard_Siegel]

B5 is batting when B6 is due up with 1 out. On a called third strike there is a passed ball. The runner at 3B scores as the ball gets away from F2. B5 reaches 1B safely. The defense properly appeals the BOO immediately. Does the run score?

[yawetag]

No. Any advancement when the the improper batter becomes a runner doesn't count -- runners return to TOP base.

[bobjenkins]

I agree with yawetag. The FED rules are clear that only advances while the improper batter is at bat are allowed. This advance was after B6 became BR.

[captk]

Agree with all the above

FED BOO Rule 7-1 Penaltes:

"2. When an improper batter becomes a runner or is put out and the defensive team appeals to the umpire before the first legal or illegal pitch...the umpire shall declare the proper batter out and return all runners to the base occupied at the time of the pitch."

[Forest_Ump]

Great question. Keep 'em coming.

[Richard_Siegel]

In the OP the run was scored on a wild pitch. If it is true that while the improper batter is at bat, if a runner advances because of a stolen base, balk, wild pitch or passed ball, such advance is legal. Then why would this run not score?

[Rich_Ives]

In the OP the run was scored on a wild pitch. If it is true that while the improper batter is at bat, if a runner advances because of a stolen base, balk, wild pitch or passed ball, such advance is legal. Then why would this run not score?

Because the batter is no longer at bat, he became a runner on the play.

[yawetag]

In the OP the run was scored on a wild pitch. If it is true that while the improper batter is at bat, if a runner advances because of a stolen base, balk, wild pitch or passed ball, such advance is legal. Then why would this run not score?

Because the rules say such.

[Forest_Ump]

7-1-1 ( last sentence.) While the improper batter is at bat, if a runner advances because of stolen base, balk, wild pitch, or passed ball, such advance is legal.

[yawetag]

7-1-1 ( last sentence.) While the improper batter is at bat, if a runner advances because of stolen base, balk, wild pitch, or passed ball, such advance is legal.

(bolding and underlining mine)
7-1-1 PENALTIES #2: When an improper batter becomes a runner or is put out and the defensive team appeals to the umpire before the first legal or illegal pitch, or, play or attempted play, or prior to an intentional base on balls or before the infielders leave the diamond if a half-inning is ending, the umpire shall declare the proper batter out and return all runners to the base occupied at the time of the pitch.

8-1-1b: A batter becomes a runner with the right to attempt to score by
advancing to first, second, third and home bases in the listed order when he is charged with a third strike

[Richard_Siegel]

Can't get anything passed y'all.

[Forest_Ump]

(bolding and underlining mine)
7-1-1 PENALTIES #2: When an improper batter becomes a runner or is put out and the defensive team appeals to the umpire before the first legal or illegal pitch, or, play or attempted play, or prior to an intentional base on balls or before the infielders leave the diamond if a half-inning is ending, the umpire shall declare the proper batter out and return all runners to the base occupied at the time of the pitch.

8-1-1b: A batter becomes a runner with the right to attempt to score by
advancing to first, second, third and home bases in the listed order when he is charged with a third strike

I didn't need to quote all that. I think most of us know the difference between a batter and a runner. :rolleyes:

[yawetag]

I didn't need to quote all that. I think most of us know the difference between a batter and a runner. :rolleyes:

I read your quote as an argument to allow the run. I was then showing the reasons why it wouldn't. At the least, a new umpire will have the full answer. :)