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nfumpire
10-20-2009, 12:34 AM
Well its been a while since i have posted, so much so that i couldnt remember my password so i had to create a new account.

Any ways am I missing something in the Yankees game. I just woke up so i may have missed something but the line up was below. In the bottom of the 10th with Rivera already on the mound and had pitched to one batter, then Girardi decides to put harriston (already the DH) into left for Damon. After the move the Box Score showed Rivera batting 2nd and Harriston still in the DH spot but now as the LF. How is this not an illegal substitution? Or am i just missing something tonight.

Jeter- SS
Damon- LF
Teixieria- 1B
Rodriguez- 3B
Harriston- DH
Posada- C
Cano- 2B
Swisher- RF
Cabera- CF

Rivera- P

Willy
10-20-2009, 12:42 AM
When the DH (Harrison) enters the game defensively, the DH is eliminated and the pitcher (Rivera) now bats in the spot of the replaced defensive player (Damon). If there is a double switch, the manager must indicate to the PU where the players are batting prior to making the change.

This is explained in the OBR under Designated Hitter.

nfumpire
10-20-2009, 12:51 AM
Different then FED then right? DH and Fielder being DH'd for are locked in the same position.

I honestly am not up to date on OBR so thanks for the info.

CoachJM
10-20-2009, 01:07 AM
nfumpire,

That's right - completely different from FED.

Willy gave the proper explanation of the OBR rule which does not have the notion of the "two players locked in the same slot" that FED does.

JM

widac
10-20-2009, 04:45 AM
If this game was played under Fed rules Rivera would have had to leave the game and his sub would bat 2nd. Pro rules you lose your DH.

Ozzy
10-20-2009, 12:50 PM
Different then FED then right? DH and Fielder being DH'd for are locked in the same position.

I honestly am not up to date on OBR so thanks for the info.
Maybe this will help:OBR 6.10 Any League may elect to use the Designated Hitter Rule.

(a) In the event of inter-league competition between clubs of Leagues using the Designated Hitter Rule and clubs of Leagues not using the Designated Hitter Rule, the rule will be used as follows:

1. In World Series or exhibition games, the rule will be used or not used as is the practice of the home team.
2. In All-Star games, the rule will only be used if both teams and both Leagues so agree.

(b) The Rule provides as follows:
A hitter may be designated to bat for the starting pitcher and all subsequent pitchers in any game without otherwise affecting the status of the pitcher(s) in the game.

A Designated Hitter for the pitcher must be selected prior to the game and must be included in the lineup cards presented to the Umpire in Chief.
The designated hitter named in the starting lineup must come to bat at least one time, unless the opposing club changes pitchers.

It is not mandatory that a club designate a hitter for the pitcher, but failure to do so prior to the game precludes the use of a Designated Hitter for that game.

Pinch hitters for a Designated Hitter may be used. Any substitute hitter for a Designated Hitter becomes the Designated Hitter. A replaced Designated Hitter shall not re-enter the game in any capacity.

The Designated Hitter may be used defensively, continuing to bat in the same position in the batting order, but the pitcher must then bat in the place of the substituted defensive player, unless more than one substitution is made, and the manager then must designate their spots in the batting order.

A runner may be substituted for the Designated Hitter and the runner assumes the role of Designated Hitter. A Designated Hitter may not pinch run.

A Designated Hitter is “locked” into the batting order. No multiple substitutions may be made that will alter the batting rotation of the Designated Hitter.

Once the game pitcher is switched from the mound to a defensive position this move shall terminate the Designated Hitter role for the remainder of the game.

Once a pinch hitter bats for any player in the batting order and then enters the game to pitch, this move shall terminate the Designated Hitter role for the remainder of the game.

Once the game pitcher bats for the Designated Hitter this move shall terminate the Designated Hitter role for the remainder of the game. (The game pitcher may only pinch-hit for the Designated Hitter).

Once a Designated Hitter assumes a defensive position this move shall terminate the Designated Hitter role for the remainder of the game. A substitute for the Designated Hitter need not be announced until it is the Designated Hitter’s turn to bat.
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