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bmtump
07-26-2009, 09:37 PM
U3 goes out on fly ball with R2 or R1 & R2. Fed mechanics has the clockwise rotation with PU rotating to 3rd and U1 rotating to home.

But I've got some literature from years past that has PU staying home with all R2 scenarios. U1 and U2 would do the reverse rotation.

Is the Fed method fairly new? Would this be association or crew dependent?

AugieDonatelli
07-26-2009, 09:55 PM
Working a lot of 4-man these days, are ya?

Willy
07-26-2009, 10:54 PM
U3 goes out on fly ball with R2 or R1 & R2. Fed mechanics has the clockwise rotation with PU rotating to 3rd and U1 rotating to home.

But I've got some literature from years past that has PU staying home with all R2 scenarios. U1 and U2 would do the reverse rotation.

Is the Fed method fairly new? Would this be association or crew dependent?

Suggestion .... dump the FED mechanics, unless instructed by your association.

I do not use FED mechanics, so I can only cite CCA mechanics that I use.

With U3 going out with R2 only. If the ball is uncaught, U2 has R2 at 2nd and 3rd, U1 has BR at first and second (reverse rotation) and PU stays put at home. If the ball is caught, U2 is responsible for the tag of R2 at 2nd and takes him to 3rd. U1 and PU get to observe.

With U3 going out with R1 and R2. If the ball is uncaught, U2 has R1 and R2 at 2nd and 3rd. U1 has BR at 1st and 2nd (reverse rotation) and PU stays put at home. If the ball is caught, U2 has the tag up of R2, U1 has the tag up of R1. PU rotates up to 3rd for any play on R2, U1 rotates home, and U2 has R1 at 1st or second and R2 at 2nd if he does not commit to 3rd.

BrianC14
07-26-2009, 11:00 PM
U3 goes out on fly ball with R2 or R1 & R2. Fed mechanics has the clockwise rotation with PU rotating to 3rd and U1 rotating to home.

But I've got some literature from years past that has PU staying home with all R2 scenarios. U1 and U2 would do the reverse rotation.

Is the Fed method fairly new? Would this be association or crew dependent?

Well, let's see.. how old is the literature from years past? That would would be at least an indicator of how "new" the FED method is.

As has been suggested already, throw it away (the old stuff); or at least quit referencing it.
And throw the FED manual away, too; or at least quit referencing it.

bobjenkins
07-28-2009, 01:36 PM
Would this be association or crew dependent?

Almost all mechanics are.

bigblue2u
07-28-2009, 06:39 PM
I can tell you what the MLU Manual says;

"The plate umpire will stay home whenever a runner is in scoring positon. Under this system, the only time the plate umpire covers 1st or 3rd base is with a runner on 1st base only or with no runners on base.

So, if you are using MLB mechanics, the PU stays home and the U2 will reverse rotate to third.