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taranisstl
05-24-2009, 07:35 PM
Clarification please. Even if a pitched ball hits the ground before the batter, its still a pitched ball and therefore the batter is awarded first, assuming they make an attempt to move etc...??

Secondly, with the little guys, is it always a free base or is there a rule of thumb for how far out? I had a situation where the ball bounced five feet in front of the plate and was going so slow, I just awarded a ball.
Rich_Ives
05-24-2009, 07:40 PM
Clarification please. Even if a pitched ball hits the ground before the batter, its still a pitched ball and therefore the batter is awarded first, assuming they make an attempt to move etc...??

Secondly, with the little guys, is it always a free base or is there a rule of thumb for how far out? I had a situation where the ball bounced five feet in front of the plate and was going so slow, I just awarded a ball.

Read the definition of "ball" in Rule 2.00 and you should have your answer.
taranisstl
05-24-2009, 07:47 PM
Thanks. It never occurred me to look in that section. 6.08 says the same thing without the specific example. Thanks for the clarification.
emfries
06-08-2009, 03:54 PM
Any pitch that bounces before the plate AND IS NOT SWUNG AT is a ball. Also, ANY pitch that hits that batter AND IS NOT SWUNG AT is a HBP and the batter gets 1st (unless he intentionally gets hit)
Rich_Ives
06-08-2009, 04:10 PM
Any pitch that bounces before the plate AND IS NOT SWUNG AT is a ball. Also, ANY pitch that hits that batter AND IS NOT SWUNG AT is a HBP and the batter gets 1st (unless he intentionally gets hit)


Any pitch that bounces before the plate AND IS NOT SWUNG AT is a ball.

It could also be a HBP.

It could bounce into the batter's bat and become a batted ball.

Also, ANY pitch that hits that batter AND IS NOT SWUNG AT is a HBP and the batter gets 1st (unless he intentionally gets hit)

Not ANY pitch, just a bounced pitch. If an in flight pitch hits the batter in the strike zone it's a dead ball and a strike - not a HBP.
DerekD
06-08-2009, 04:35 PM
Simply, a pitch that bounces before the plate can be anything but a called strike.
catoblue
06-09-2009, 06:17 PM
A pitch is a ball delivered to the batter by the pitcher. It doesn't matter how it gets to the batter. If the batter is hit by a pitch while attempting to avoid it, he is awarded first base.

Rules: 2.00 PITCH, 6.08(b).