Wearing of Wristbands?

[heyblue26]

I have a question and hope that I am posting it in the correct area of disscussion. I have tried to figure this out on my own by reading the PBUC, J/R and MLB Umpires Manual and of course the PBUC manual there is no reference to the ban of specific items of clothing. but the other two manuals J/R and MLB Umpires Manual do.

Why is this not enforced and you see players wearing white wristbands? Can some one explain this. Maybe Jason can explain it or someone else so I have a better understanding of why.

When umpiring I see players wearing them but am not that techinical to call this and it seems none of the other umpires that I work with or coaches are either I guess we just accept it as part of the game. This came up in a disscussion with some fellow umpires.

[Richard_Siegel]

Wristbands of any color are prohibited for pitchers. But I have never seen a ruling that prohibits it for other players.

[heyblue26]

Wristbands of any color are prohibited for pitchers. But I have never seen a ruling that prohibits it for other players.

Richard I fully agree with you on what you have stated. As it is stated in the MLB Umpires Manual 2007 Edition page 8 (2.13) It states as it is written in the manual NO Player is permitted to wear white wrist bands or bandages because of the difficulty in discerning the white of the baseball and the white of the wrist band. PBUC does not address this. J/R manual on page 197 Other Items prohibited and he uses the Ref 2.13 also.

[jasonk]

Pitchers are not allowed to wear wristbands at all. This also include rubber bands and the Nike Livestrong bracelets. Failure to have them removed will cause the umpire to get written up if caught not enforcing this.

[Ozzy]

We've been through this discussion several times. It seems to be handled differently in other parts of the Country. However, in my games, plastic wristbands are considered jewelry and unless I am doing a College level game or above, either they come off or the player leaves. The coach can follow if he doesn't like it, I don't particularly care.

[mazzamouth]

We've been through this discussion several times. It seems to be handled differently in other parts of the Country. However, in my games, plastic wristbands are considered jewelry and unless I am doing a College level game or above, either they come off or the player leaves. The coach can follow if he doesn't like it, I don't particularly care.


I do agree with Ozzy... In high school or lower... they are coming off.... as far as a college game I don't care if they wear them, Unless he is the pitcher.

[Rich_Ives]

Richard I fully agree with you on what you have stated. As it is stated in the MLB Umpires Manual 2007 Edition page 8 (2.13) It states as it is written in the manual NO Player is permitted to wear white wrist bands or bandages because of the difficulty in discerning the white of the baseball and the white of the wrist band. PBUC does not address this. J/R manual on page 197 Other Items prohibited and he uses the Ref 2.13 also.


It's one of those things that won't get enforced unless the other team objects. Others include a first baseman holding a runner on while having a foot in foul territory and coaches being out of the coaching box.

The bottom line - no one cares.

[Willy]

college-Nothing on the pitching arm. As long as it's not white, I don't enforce on the glove arm unless opposing team brings it up.

fed-zero jewelry

[heyblue26]

It's one of those things that won't get enforced unless the other team objects. Others include a first baseman holding a runner on while having a foot in foul territory and coaches being out of the coaching box.

The bottom line - no one cares.

Thanks to all of you for your responses and everyone one of them has good points. It was just something I had a question about. I am still learning and willing to learn everyday when I stop doing that need to hang it up.

Thanks again.

[mazzamouth]

and coaches being out of the coaching box.

The bottom line - no one cares.

I know this is one of the rule changes this year and we were told we better keep the coaches in the box.

[Tim_C]

"I know this is one of the rule changes this year and we were thold we better keep the coaches in the box. "


Err, which "rule change" would that be?

"Official rule changes" for 2009 NFHS:

1- Non-permanent lines on playing field will be marked with material . . .

2- Intentionally pitch close to a batter . . .

3- Penalty: The batter remains at at (pitch is a ball or strike) . . .

4- . . . word "heather" gray . . .

Now TWO YEARS ago they directed us to keep coaches in the coaching box until the pitch was thrown. LAST YEAR that was dropped and I know of no "new" decrees to keep coaches in the coaching box.

Regards,

[mazzamouth]

Err, which "rule change" would that be?

"Official rule changes" for 2009 NFHS:

1- Non-permanent lines on playing field will be marked with material . . .

2- Intentionally pitch close to a batter . . .

3- Penalty: The batter remains at at (pitch is a ball or strike) . . .

4- . . . word "heather" gray . . .

Now TWO YEARS ago they directed us to keep coaches in the coaching box until the pitch was thrown. LAST YEAR that was dropped and I know of no "new" decrees to keep coaches in the coaching box.

Regards,

Sorry.... NCAA 2009 rule change...



Rule 1-3-c-A.R. Add “At the time of the pitch, a coach must position himself no closer to home plate than the front edge of the coach’s box and no closer to fair territory than the edge of the coach’s box nearest the field.

PENALTY: Warning on the first offense; a further violation shall result in the coach being ejected

[Rich_Ives]

Sorry.... NCAA 2009 rule change...



Rule 1-3-c-A.R. Add “At the time of the pitch, a coach must position himself no closer to home plate than the front edge of the coach’s box and no closer to fair territory than the edge of the coach’s box nearest the field.

PENALTY: Warning on the first offense; a further violation shall result in the coach being ejected


That only "closes" two of the four sides. MLB adopted it this year. They can still go hide in the bullpen whn Sheffield is up.

[Tim_C]

Mazz:

Thanks for bringing me back to the "college" version of this rule. I errored and "morphed" it into a NFHS discussion.

BTW, I think this rule (and the same professional rule) deserve the same respect as a Roger Dorn contract.

Regards,

[CoachJM]

...

BTW, I think this rule (and the same professional rule) deserve the same respect as a Roger Dorn contract.

...



"It was out of my reach, what do you want me to do, dive for it?"
- Roger Dorn

JM

[mazzamouth]

Mazz:

Thanks for bringing me back to the "college" version of this rule. I errored and "morphed" it into a NFHS discussion.

BTW, I think this rule (and the same professional rule) deserve the same respect as a Roger Dorn contract.

Regards,

No problem Tim as I forgot to put down that I was referring to the college rule...LOL

[BlueGus]

I do know that white wrist bands are not allowed in American Legion Baseball. I will also tell you it is rarely enforced unless one team says something.

[Willy]

Back to the coaches box rule, I love it now that it might keep the first base coaches out of my way. This time if they don't listen, I have a definitive rule to refer to.

[Rich_Ives]

Back to the coaches box rule, I love it now that it might keep the first base coaches out of my way. This time if they don't listen, I have a definitive rule to refer to.

Read it carefully. It doesn't say they have to be in the box, it just limits how close to the plate and the baseline they can be.

[mazzamouth]

Read it carefully. It doesn't say they have to be in the box, it just limits how close to the plate and the baseline they can be.

Well they do in a way have to be in the box... they can be no closer than the front edge toward homeplate...I know i will not tell a coach to get back in if he is on the back of the box ( toward 1st base or 3rd base side) as long as he isn't creeping closer to home.