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JBowling
09-22-2008, 01:27 PM
I had this situation come up yesterday in a HS fall league (FED).

Bases Loaded, one out. Ground Ball to F4. F4 throws to F2 for the force. F2 holds the ball seeing he has no chance to get batter at first. F2 returns the ball to F1.

For no apparent reason after touching first base (except thinking force at home was third out), BR heads toward 1B dugout. He is almost to the dugout when F1 throws ball to F3. F3 steps on the base, I call BR out on the appeal.

Correct or not?

BigUmp56
09-22-2008, 02:07 PM
It's not really an appeal. If you feel that the runner had progressed a "reasonable" distance toward his dugout with no intention to reassert his status as a runner, you can simply call him out for abandonment.

Tim.

Richard_Siegel
09-22-2008, 02:44 PM
I had this situation come up yesterday in a HS fall league (FED).

Bases Loaded, one out. Ground Ball to F4. F4 throws to F2 for the force. F2 holds the ball seeing he has no chance to get batter at first. F2 returns the ball to F1.

For no apparent reason (except thinking force at home was third out), BR heads toward 1B dugout. He is almost to the dugout when F1 throws ball to F3. F3 steps on the base, I call BR out on the appeal.

Correct or not?
This is a normal ground out: 4-2-1-3 double play. It is not an appeal. Appeals are only for situations where a runner missed a base while passing it, or left a base too soon before a fly ball was touched and caught. There is no "appeal" for a runner not advancing to the next base, that is just a normal put out.

A runner can not be called out for abandonment before he reaches first base.

widac
09-22-2008, 03:00 PM
Had the b/r made it to 1B?

JBowling
09-22-2008, 03:19 PM
Yes, BR had safely made it to first base.

BrianC14
09-22-2008, 03:23 PM
Yes, BR had safely made it to first base.


Would have been helpful to know that in the O/P.

As this is FED rules, I'd have him out on appeal (yes, yes, there's no "formal" appeal required in FED, but based on the OP, the defense did what they had to do).

BrianC14
09-22-2008, 03:24 PM
How come the "quotes" don't work anymore?

:?:

BigUmp56
09-22-2008, 05:04 PM
A runner can not be called out for abandonment before he reaches first base.

No, but according to Roder he can be called out for desertion.......


Tim.

JBowling
09-23-2008, 12:51 AM
Edit made to reflect, BR did safely touch first base before heading to dugout.

robbyrudd45
09-24-2008, 12:27 AM
This would be an out for abandonment and not an appeal (or a double play as Richard alluded to).