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widac
09-16-2008, 02:30 AM
I've realized recently that I need to know more then I do about "catch and carry". I know (or think I know) that it refers to a sitch where a fielder catches a ball in flight and then carries it out of play.

1. Is it always in effect or can it be a ground rule that any C & C sitch is always a dead ball when the ball is carried out of play?

2. If the fielder maintains control of his body and stays on his feet does he always have to bring it back into live play area before he can make a throw or is that a matter of "ground rule"? Can you for instance make a ground rule that a fielder can throw from dead ball area and the ball remains live?

3. If the fielder makes a catch and his momentum takes him out of play does it matter how far out of play? I had a partner the other day tell me the fielder only gets two steps and after that he'd call it dead and award bases. That doesn't seem right.

4. I believe that the ball staying live depends on the fielder staying on his feet or maintaining control of his body, as in a sitch where he had to slide to make the catch and that if/when the fielder falls down out of play the ball becomes dead and bases are awarded, correct?

5. Are there big difference in Fed, NCAA and OBR?

6. Is this one of the resons that I should cough up the $48 for the Jaksa/Roder Manual?

bobjenkins
09-16-2008, 01:22 PM
5. Are there big difference in Fed, NCAA and OBR?

Yes (other than question 3 -- your friend is wrong under all codes)

6. Is this one of the resons that I should cough up the $48 for the Jaksa/Roder Manual?

Yes

PeteBooth
09-16-2008, 04:50 PM
5. Are there big difference in Fed, NCAA and OBR?

6. Is this one of the resons that I should cough up the $48 for the Jaksa/Roder Manual?

Since you asked about FED / OBR / NCAA differences IMO, in addition to JR you should purchase Carl Childress's BRD (Baseball Rules Differences)

Pete Booth

OzUmp
09-17-2008, 09:05 PM
3. If the fielder makes a catch and his momentum takes him out of play does it matter how far out of play? I had a partner the other day tell me the fielder only gets two steps and after that he'd call it dead and award bases. That doesn't seem right.



...other than question 3 -- your friend is wrong under all codes)

Bob under which code can you only run 2 steps into DBT before the ball is ruled dead? I assume it is a FED thing.

widac
09-17-2008, 09:22 PM
3. If the fielder makes a catch and his momentum takes him out of play does it matter how far out of play? I had a partner the other day tell me the fielder only gets two steps and after that he'd call it dead and award bases. That doesn't seem right.



...other than question 3 -- your friend is wrong under all codes)

Bob under which code can you only run 2 steps into DBT before the ball is ruled dead? I assume it is a FED thing.

I beleive that Bob is saying that there are differences in the codes but that there is no "two step" thing in any of them and the guy who told me that there is, is wrong.

bobjenkins
09-18-2008, 12:51 PM
3. If the fielder makes a catch and his momentum takes him out of play does it matter how far out of play? I had a partner the other day tell me the fielder only gets two steps and after that he'd call it dead and award bases. That doesn't seem right.



...other than question 3 -- your friend is wrong under all codes)

Bob under which code can you only run 2 steps into DBT before the ball is ruled dead? I assume it is a FED thing.

What I meant was, "There are differences among the codes on all questions, but all codes agree that your friend is wrong on question 3 (none of the coded has a "two step limit")