the good, bad and the ugly.

[blue13]

Today here was a situation i witnessed:

LL Tourney. No outs. Batter hits a routine grounder. U1 calls the runner safe on what turned into a banger at first. Defensive Manager doesn't like it. He requests time and from standing near the dugout, U1 acknowledges his request for an "appeal"?!?!?. U1 immediately points to PU. Mananger asks PU for the "appeal". PU rings up an out. Inning over. Offensive manager goes off the hook at this point, runs out of the dugout, jumping up and down. Seeing how the situation prior was handled, it was no suprise that he wasn't ejected, after making personal comments which could be heard from the stands!! I had to leave and go for a walk after putting my head down and sealing my lips. I could not fathom how, a "request for help" could be granted to a defensive manager, looking to get an out, on a bang bang play on at first. Strangely, this manager pulled this same stunt on this EXACT same situation, with me, during a game only to find he didn't get his "appeal".

Your thoughts?

[BigUmp56]

Is it possible that the BU thought he might have erroneously called the runner safe for a pulled foot by F3?

Tim.

[semperfiguy]

It seems to me if the Bu had thought there was a possibility he booted the call then he could have called a conference to straighten it out with his partner. AFter all getting the call is what is really right isnt??? Just my two cents. balls and strikes baby!!!!

[SJC_Blue]

Yes there are certainly reasons the base ump might go to the plate ump on this play. The plate ump has certain responsibilities here. It sounds like the mechanics of it were off. Right as the play happens U1 could go to the plate with "Did you see the tag, or did he pull his foot". Once the call has been made though, and the manager wants him to ask for help, he U1 may or may not grant that request. If he does, then a conference between the umpires is in order. If he changes his call, he needs to be ready to explain to the Offensive Manager what he didn't see, what the plate did see, and why the call was reversed.

[Dragon29]

Today here was a situation i witnessed:

LL Tourney. No outs. Batter hits a routine grounder. U1 calls the runner safe on what turned into a banger at first. Defensive Manager doesn't like it. He requests time and from standing near the dugout, U1 acknowledges his request for an "appeal"?!?!?. U1 immediately points to PU. Mananger asks PU for the "appeal". PU rings up an out. Inning over. Offensive manager goes off the hook at this point, runs out of the dugout, jumping up and down. Seeing how the situation prior was handled, it was no suprise that he wasn't ejected, after making personal comments which could be heard from the stands!! I had to leave and go for a walk after putting my head down and sealing my lips. I could not fathom how, a "request for help" could be granted to a defensive manager, looking to get an out, on a bang bang play on at first. Strangely, this manager pulled this same stunt on this EXACT same situation, with me, during a game only to find he didn't get his "appeal".

Your thoughts?

I'm wondering why the inning ends w/only one out - !?!

[johnnyV]

That's probably why the Offensive Manager went crazy...has a call reversed on appeal and automatic three outs! 8O 8O

[johnnyV]

just joking on the 3 outs that is... 8)