HC and player ejected

[cgump3]

I had a HS varsity game Thursday night. I was working the plate. Top of the second two outs, two strikes on the batter. Batter swings misses and gets hit by pitch. I call time, strike three and point at batter and call him out. Batter does not understand but goes on to the dugout. The HC who is the thirdbase coach comes to me and asks why his batter is out. I explain to him that he swung and missed strike three and was hit by the pitch, the ball is dead and the batter is out. He just looks at me and says that is the first time I had heard of that. Walks on to the dugout and yells out "dead ball out" a couple of times and repeated again that was his first. Bottom of the inning his players start yelling out "dead ball out" after the first couple of pitches. I call time and walk to the dugout and warn the coach and players to cut it out. The coach than pops back and tells me I need to worry about the game and not his dugout. Looking back I should have ran him there, but I threw up my hand (stop sign) and the coach said he would take care of his team I told him thank you and played ball. Top of the 4th, player yells out, from the visiting teams dugout, dead ball out. I than call time walk toward the dugout and asked who said it. No answer so I picked out the closest player to me and ejected him. Turned around and met the HC between home and third. Told him who I ejected and he started in on me and I told him we were not going there and of course he did not stop so I ejected him.

The game went smooth from that point on. I just wished I took care of the HC in the second. Is there anything different I could have done?

[BKump]

If you would have taken care of the HC in the second (which was the problem coach) that would have prevented the HC and the probably innocent player from the other team getting ejected. I probably would have given the visiting team a bench warning before I tossed one of the players since they are first time offenders right now. However, I am probably considered to be a softy around here and Im sure some people will post drastically different views.

But it boils down to you should have ran the Home HC in the second when you had the chance. The home team pushed you as far to the edge as you could get, and the one little thing from the visiting team put you over the edge and resulted in two ejections. Doesn't seem fair to me.

[HoosierBlue]

Either BKump misread your post, or you mis-wrote your post.

Taking in all of your context, the same coach was the only problem and his bench was the only bench problem.

In the top of the 2nd, the visiting team was the team at bat, so that same bench mouthed off later, right?

I don't think the coach was out of line to question you or to say that's the first time he heard of it ... he didn't actually say you were wrong ... although he may have implied it. Once the players chimed in, I would have given him a warning. When he told me to mind my game and not his dugout, I would have restricted him to the dugout ... quite fitting actually considering the comment. The next time I heard the player say something, I would have tossed the HC based on the logic that he said he would control his dugout and he didn't.

My two cents.

[Rash3UC]

Either BKump misread your post, or you mis-wrote your post.

Taking in all of your context, the same coach was the only problem and his bench was the only bench problem.

In the top of the 2nd, the visiting team was the team at bat, so that same bench mouthed off later, right?

I don't think the coach was out of line to question you or to say that's the first time he heard of it ... he didn't actually say you were wrong ... although he may have implied it. Once the players chimed in, I would have given him a warning. When he told me to mind my game and not his dugout, I would have restricted him to the dugout ... quite fitting actually considering the comment. The next time I heard the player say something, I would have tossed the HC based on the logic that he said he would control his dugout and he didn't.

My two cents.

This is exactly how I would've handled it.

[blue bomber]

Either BKump misread your post, or you mis-wrote your post.

Taking in all of your context, the same coach was the only problem and his bench was the only bench problem.

In the top of the 2nd, the visiting team was the team at bat, so that same bench mouthed off later, right?

I don't think the coach was out of line to question you or to say that's the first time he heard of it ... he didn't actually say you were wrong ... although he may have implied it. Once the players chimed in, I would have given him a warning. When he told me to mind my game and not his dugout, I would have restricted him to the dugout ... quite fitting actually considering the comment. The next time I heard the player say something, I would have tossed the HC based on the logic that he said he would control his dugout and he didn't.

My two cents.

This is exactly how I would've handled it.

Likewise. It would be incredibly fitting to confine the HC to the dugout so he can focus on "controlling it."

[cgump3]

To clear it up, it was the same team warned in the second inning.

Great advise.

Thanks.

[BKump]

Looks like I did read your post wrong...it was late. :lol: