#2 Here comes the mean blue.

[mrc102]

Ok, well I'm umpiring our local womens league which is of a pretty low standard due to their physical ability, however their understanding of the game is pretty good.

R2 stealing. Safe at 3rd base. Left field screams out "Open your eyes".

Instinctively I point her in the direction of the car park (sorry parking lot), and "your done". Manager comes running out, asks what was said and then agrees with me. Woa! I wasn't expecting that, but it was a pleasent suprise nonetheless.

Point to note is that I've just come back from the Academy so the first few ejections are just going to happen as part of the reaction from the course. Maybe if I hadn't done the Academy I would have just told her to shut up, but tough - if they want a better umpire then they get the whole deal not just bits and pieces.

Cheers,
MC

[archipelligo]

You're bragging about dumping women? You went to the academy to learn how to dump women? I'd like to hear more, this is fascinating.

[OzUmp]

"Open your eyes" is enough to get yourself ejected these days? I am sorry but I just don't buy it. Perhaps if she had said "open your eyes you dumb SOB" I would understand the ejection. I have little time for umpires whom you can't look at sideways for fear of having to leave the game early, a game that you would have paid to play in. I have run in to this type of umpire on occassion and I just can't figure them. My granny always told me that a hit dog always barks. In any event if that is what the "academy" is teaching I will save my money.

[SoCalUmp]

Hmmmmm from what I recall from my experience at the Academy in 02 that IS NOT something you would eject a player for!

[PABLUE]

I don't see that as a eject,restrict to bench,if avaiable in that league......... maybe. She would proabably get the good stare down look to let her know that I had heard her and didn't care for the comment.Would also proabably get me to bring her coach over in between innings for a slight suggestion to tell his player to watch the comments for the rest of the game.

[DDDD]

Run him/her immediately. At both umpire schools they tell you to eject this person without warning. Telling an umpire to open his eyes is very personal and the same as telling him he isn't paying attention.

[OzUmp]

Half the time they are not paying attention. It is amazing how defensive people get when you tell them they are full of it; especially umpires it seems.

[JayMeland]

Malcom, is that you?

[mrc102]

I certainly have no problem in tolerating more, and in the past I probably would have. However, and feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but if someone attacks you personally then you're going to eject them without warning. If they had said it only within ear shot of me so that only I heard it then that I think is different, but the fact that she yelled it loud enough for the entire field and spectators to hear it is different.

Also, if it was the third baseman and they were just reacting to the play itself then I would let it slide, but the fact that this player wasn't involved in the play then it's not just a natural reaction but a deliberate attack and saying that I was not watching the play.

I certainly don't disagree with those that have said that I was over the top and you would want more before you had ejected someone, but again I was just applying what I believe was the implied rule of ejecting without warning on a personal attack. If I'm wrong, then sobeit, but this is all a learning experience, and just because I've come back from Orlando, it doesn't mean the learning stops. You can't teach game or situation management, you just have to react at the time and learn from the experience. In saying this, would I have done the same thing again? Probably so, it just depends on the situation.

As for specifically going to learn to dump women, that's certainly not what I paid $15K for. Women dump me enough as it is, but that's another story altogether. :)

[wnvan]

I guess how soon I would eject her would depend on what she looked like.

[misterblue]

the key word is YOU.
how could you forget that so quickly?
YOU'RE qualifies, not your.

YOU have to justify the 1000's YOU left in Fla somehow.

[archipelligo]

15K? Did that come with a nice hat, like Cooperstown? How many times did you go? How could you possibly spend $15,000 and then end up doing womens games?

[mrc102]

I spent $15K, because of the poor conversion rate from Aussie dollars to the US, and once you add on flights and a bit of spending money it quickly all adds up.
As for how I end up doing womens games, I do that a a volunteer thing on a Friday night for them. My GF plays in that league so it means I can watch her games occassionally.
I normally umpire at our top level which has a fair amount of guys that play in Long A, AA etc., and come back home in the off season. So the quality of those games is obviously quite good. We sometimes get to see 98MPH etc., and it's a lot of fun to be able to work at that level.

MC

[archipelligo]

Well if your GF is in the league, I guess that's ok, but don't give her any preferential treatment, that would look bad. And whatever you do, don't dump her, that could be grounds for her dumping you. Can she hit the hook? Can she lay down a good sacrifice? Can she hit behind the runner?
Can she hit the cutoff man? And as for those 98 mph pitches, is that in metric or mph? I think Smoltz can't even hit 98 anymore, and he's in the big leagues.

[semperfiguy]

As long as your consistent, run her. If thats how you work they will learn to apprerciate your level of or lack of bs from anyone.they will learn to get it. balls and strikes baby!!!!

[lawump]

OMG...why are we dragging this thread, which is 23 1/2 months old, up?

[Durham]

MC,

I would say job well done for addressing an individual that did something wrong. We all know a lot of umpires that would have let it go. Was ejection the way to handle it, I don't know, I wasn't there. But you were and you have had time to replay the situation and learn from it, and you know exactly how you will handle it if it happens again. The way I look at it is that they screwed up, you acted, the manager felt as if your actions were fair. Sounds like you pulled it off and handled the situation well. Just keep working hard and getting better and don't get caught up in what other people think about you. Seek advice and guidance and then sperate the good out of the crap.

[Durham]

OMG...why are we dragging this thread, which is 23 1/2 months old, up?

I didn't even look at the damn date, lol.

[Richard_Siegel]

Anytime somebody has a constructive contribution to a topic no matter how old it is we should welcome it. The contributor may not have been aware of the original post or a member of URC at the time ot original post. Hence, if he has a good idea to add, though it might be long after the thread has gone dormant, we shouldn't make it an issue.