batter runner

[retired]

If a batter runner hits a ground ball, beats the throw to first but does not touch first base, he is not out when the 1st baseman catches the ball while touching the base afterwards.
How could he be called out in this situation?

[yawetag]

If a batter runner hits a ground ball, beats the throw to first but does not touch first base, he is not out when the 1st baseman catches the ball while touching the base afterwards.
How could he be called out in this situation?

He can be called out if the defensive team appeals the missing of the base before the batter-runner returns to the base.

[nopachunts]

After a proper appeal is made. If F3 touches the bag with ball in hand or glove and tells the umpire the runner missed the bag, the batter-runner would be out. It has to be an unmistakeable appeal, no just touching the bag after the batter-runner has acquired the base.

[dukemd]

I have seen this situation on the boards before and dont understand the "not out if BR does not touch 1st base."

Please help me understand....

[KenGibes]

I have seen this situation on the boards before and dont understand the "not out if BR does not touch 1st base."

Please help me understand....

Not quite sure what you want explained.

But when a runner passes a base without touching it, the umpire treats the situation exactly as if the baserunner HAD touched the base. So, for a play at 1st base, if the runner beats the throw but doesn't touch the bag, the umpire would declare the runner SAFE. The situation then becomes an appeal. If the defense saw the runner miss the base, the defense would need to make a proper appeal before the BR returned to the base to get the out.

There is a caveat to this... it happens at home plate. If there is a play on a runner at home, and the runner it not tagged but passes the plate without touching it, you do NOT signal safe. In this case, you signal nothing. If no appeal is made, the run scores. If an appeal is made, the runner must be physically tagged if he hasn't left the vicinity of the plate (the catcher can't simply step on home plate and make the verbal appeal.) If the runner has left the vicinity of the plate, then the catcher can make the appeal by touching the plate (the catcher CAN NOT carry the ball into the dugout to touch the runner... the ball would be dead before the appeal was made and it would mean a 2 base award for any other runners.)

The particulars of these rules probably vary a little from rule set to rule set, the the basics of them generally remain the same.

[jbonnot]

For clarification...

Close play at the plate. Runner doesn't slide, misses the plate, and catcher misses the tag. No signal is given??? Didn't you just tell the defense he missed the plate?

I wouldn't verbalize a SAFE call, but perhaps a NO TAG with palms down?

[jaxrolo]

I have seen this situation on the boards before and dont understand the "not out if BR does not touch 1st base."

Please help me understand....

The runner is BR is considered to have acquired the base once he goes by the base until a proper appeal is made.

[yawetag]

Didn't you just tell the defense he missed the plate?

Yes, and you told the offense he missed the tag.

Do you give a safe sign every time a runner touches the plate?

[bobjenkins]

For clarification...

Close play at the plate. Runner doesn't slide, misses the plate, and catcher misses the tag. No signal is given??? Didn't you just tell the defense he missed the plate?

I wouldn't verbalize a SAFE call, but perhaps a NO TAG with palms down?

No. Just stand there and see what happens next.