Balk or not

[gdalecoach]

Had this happen last weekend and just wanted to double check myself.
I am BU. R1 & R3 pitcher starts his movement home and suddenly stops, I call balk and am in the process of awarding the runners their base when the PU steps up and says no balk the batter called time and stepped out of the box.
The OC wanted to know why the runners had to go back. After getting together with my partner he told me that the batter had stepped out and thus no balk. Neither coach liked our rulling on this but that was what we decided and stuck with it.

[CoachJM]

gdalecoach,

If the pitcher aborts his delivery due to the batter stepping out or requesting time, it's a "do-over".

OBR: 6.02(b) Comment

FED: 6-2-4(d)(1)

JM

[gdalecoach]

thats what we ruled but just wanted to double check myself. Thanks.

[mt 73]

And in FED if he steps out of the box with both feet it is an automatic strike.

[jaxrolo]

And in FED if he steps out of the box with both feet it is an automatic strike.

Could you provide a reference please?

[CoachJM]

Could you provide a reference please?

jax,

See my FED cite above.

I've never seen this called, nor do I expect to.

Could happen I guess.

JM

[cordon blue]

The citation given by CoachJM is correct for the question in the original post. The citation for mt 73’s assertion about the batter leaving the box with both feet is rule 7-3-1. That rule requires the batter to remain in the box. If the batter steps out with both feet a strike shall be called for the violation. And if the pitcher legally delivered a pitch it shall be called a strike and the penalty shall be enforced as well. In other words, two strikes on the batter for leaving the box.

I, too, doubt that this happens very often.

[dash_riprock]

And in FED if he steps out of the box with both feet it is an automatic strike.

And if the pitcher delivers a pitch, it's two strikes. It's the purple cow call of FED baseball.

[CoachJM]

Dash,

I, too, would rather see than be (the one who called) one.

Might be fun, though! ;)

JM

[djs_net]

The citation given by CoachJM is correct for the question in the original post. The citation for mt 73’s assertion about the batter leaving the box with both feet is rule 7-3-1. That rule requires the batter to remain in the box. If the batter steps out with both feet a strike shall be called for the violation. And if the pitcher legally delivered a pitch it shall be called a strike and the penalty shall be enforced as well. In other words, two strikes on the batter for leaving the box.

I, too, doubt that this happens very often.

Just to clarify, for those people who come here for their rule interpretations and don't actually read the book. There are 8 listed exceptions when the batter is allowed to leave the box (including after swinging at a pitch).

[wek29]

And if the pitcher delivers a pitch, it's two strikes. It's the purple cow call of FED baseball.

Just for my own curiosity, since I don't ump FED. Is it automatically 2 strikes if the pitcher throws the ball, or is the pitch called as pitched? So they could get a ball and strike? Just thinking if this is the case the fun a 3-2 count could be. :D

[yawetag]

Just for my own curiosity, since I don't ump FED. Is it automatically 2 strikes if the pitcher throws the ball, or is the pitch called as pitched? So they could get a ball and strike? Just thinking if this is the case the fun a 3-2 count could be. :D

Automatically a strike. 6-2-4d-1: "if the pitcher legally delivers the ball, it shall be called a strike and the ball remains live."

If you'd like the full rule, I'll paste it, as that's a bit out of context. However, it says that if the batter steps out of the box without being given time, the ball's automatically a strike. If he steps out with both feet, it's two strikes.

[wek29]

Automatically a strike. 6-2-4d-1: "if the pitcher legally delivers the ball, it shall be called a strike and the ball remains live."

If you'd like the full rule, I'll paste it, as that's a bit out of context. However, it says that if the batter steps out of the box without being given time, the ball's automatically a strike. If he steps out with both feet, it's two strikes.

Thank you! No need for the full rule, was just curious and of course imagining the fun of "sort of" having a 4-3 count. (Would that be truly a full count? HA!)